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Hi, I'm Wendy, a helper with the Entertaiment group on wikia. I stopped by today when I saw that this wiki had been created with visions of those endless blue books my brother owned in my mind. Imagine my surprise at your color scheme! It looks really good though, and you've done a great job getting things organized and in place.

I'm not sure if you know, but your main page is very very wide. On my screen it runs under the menu bars and off the side of the page. It is the right width only for the top text; the problem starts at the Featured article. I looked through the history, and it appears that the first revision that shows the problem is this one; you changed all the code at the top of the page and added some div_id tags. I don't know what those do exactly, so I'm not sure if they are the problem or something else that I'm missing, or if it's some wacky/unexpected interaction with my browser.

I'd be happy to help you try to sort out what's going on there, and if you have any other questions, please let me know on my Talk Page! -- Wendy (talk) 04:38, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I found the problem on the mainpage; it was a no-wrap command you had up in the heading; it was making the text in the featured article box not wrap which was forcing the page very wide. I'm not sure if there's some way to "turn it off" after the top part so I just took it out. The page now looks good to me; let me know if that in turn scrambles your view of it!
To customize colors you need to edit the various .css pages. Mediawiki:Common.css is the best place to start; there's also Mediawiki:Monobook.css and Mediawiki:Quartz.css but they are skin-specific. To get an idea of what you can do with them I suggest looking at that page on some customized sites; for example, Cloverfield (fairly simple mods), Buffy or Memory Alpha (for a highly customized version). -- Wendy (talk) 18:06, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi -- I'm not sure if you ever saw my answer about color codes since I put it on my own talk page. There are lots of online guides to them (if you search on "HTML Color Codes" for example). Here's one that I've used before...
However I also wanted to tell you that they introduced an entirely new "skin" today called Monaco. You can see it in your preferences. It has a lot of nice features; if you want to see one that's been customized check out Muppet Wiki. :) -- Wendy (talk) 03:09, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Navigational Box

Hey WHLfan, I'm Phillip. A Wikia Helper on the Entertainment hub, and here to help you out! Now, there are several templates/menus that are called "navigational box" do you have something in mind or an example you could show me? I'd also be happy to work together and make one of your own, whichever you prefer is fine with me. -- Phillip (talk) 22:47, 25 February 2008 (UTC)


My name is Michael and I am a Wiki user. I noticed your wiki and wanted to help! I was wondering if you could give me adminship by clicking here so I can help make your wiki the best it can be! Thanks and click here to respond! Thanks! SwirlBoy39 19:09, 2 March 2008 (UTC)


I have an acount on The Simple English/Eng. Wikipedia and uncyclopedia. You can see my edits there. :) SwirlBoy39 22:18, 3 March 2008 (UTC)


Hi. I'd be honored to be an admin, although I feel a bit guilty; I know much more about old Nancy Drew than about Hardy Boys.... -- Wendy (talk) 14:05, 6 March 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for letting me know about the images already being uploaded and where to find them! Also thanks for the incomplete template. I'm sorry I can't fill in the details more precisely. You know I think I probably did read some of the original hardy boys books at some point but it was ages ago.

Speaking of images, were you interested in creating a favicon for the site? Something to replace the yellow "w" in the browser bar? I've tried to think what would work for here, and come up with a flashlight or an HB. Anything much more complicated tends to be hard to read. -- Wendy (talk) 23:15, 8 March 2008 (UTC)


Hi, I'm Centrion, and thanks for the Message! Just curious, do you happen to be HardyBoysWiki, a user on Skywarp's Casefiles Encyclopedia? I first heard of this Wiki from him (or her), and wasn't sure if it was you. Centrion 19:13, 10 March 2008

Reply to Plese Sign In

Thanks, when I first got on I was signed in, but I most have accidentally signed off. I was wondering why my name didn't come up! Thanks Again, Centrion 21:00, 12 March 2008


Try that. You needed to use the code you had used for the title, rather than for the gallery. Speaking of the latter, I changed it so it wouldn't always have a redlinked gallery, but I'm not sure what you're trying to do with it. -- Wendy (talk) 23:15, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I had seen the galleries, and it makes more sense now. But I'm still not sure why you had it set to say "IF gallery, GALLERY", GALLERY; which means that there's always a redlink even if there is no gallery.... The same with the books. It makes more sense to me to have a gallery=PAGENAME/gallery entry which will put the link there if it exists, and have it not appear otherwise. -- Wendy (talk) 23:43, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

User Edit Counts

The statistics are kept here. They're sort of dense. But if you scroll down there's a reasonably sized chart with each of the contributors names and edit counts. -- Wendy (talk) 23:43, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Links for the Original series and the Digest series

WHLfan, you might want to change the links for the Original series and the Digest series, so that people don't end up seeing the links as "Original_series" or "Digest_series" on pages where a link for those pages is needed. The underscore doesn't look too nice. -- User:Tomswift2002 1815 h March 17 2008 (EST)

For some reason, on Sunday when I was editing The Skyfire Puzzle, it wasn't letting me connect back, in the article, to the Digest page unless I had it coded Digest_series. As for changing the links, you might want to have the link just be 'Digest', sort of like you have it for the 'Casefiles' and 'Undercover Brothers'.Tomswift2002 01:09, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


Sorry, feeling pretty dumb, but is it possible to delete a uploaded image? It was misstyped and another image is already up properly, but I don't know how to delete it. Centrion

If you'd like to check The Secret Of The Old Mill (revised), you'll see that I'm getting to the pages, but I haven't had a chance yet to type in the write-ups, only upload certain pictures.Tomswift2002 01:41, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


A quick heads up. The entertainment group is really impressed with this wiki (congratulations to you on that by the way -- you're doing a great job!) and wants to put up the Hardy Boys as one of the "Wikia Spotlights" that you see around the screen. I'm not sure what will happen with it, but it should bring some extra people this way, and maybe some new contributors if we're lucky :). Anyhow you are totally great at welcoming new users, and I'll be around to help so I think it will be pretty easy. I told them I thought it was a great idea (in fact I was going to suggest that you request one) so unless you object, it'll probably start appearing in a couple of days or so. -- Wendy (talk) 03:53, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi -- I just noticed your question about the spotlight. Sorry! Unfortunately I can't show you the complete spotlight discussions as they are on a protected site. I can promise you that you are in the list; we just got behind right about then and are slowly catching up. There is a page to request a spotlight but you don't need to do that, and that page only shows a list of requested wiki spots.. So I'm sorry about the delays, but we haven't forgotten :). -- Wendy (talk) 00:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Character template

Now sorts on Male/Female into either Category:Male characters or Category:Female characters. If no gender is given, no category is made. However Male/Female must be capitalized; anything else (eg. male, or unknown) will default to Female the way I've written it. -- Wendy (talk) 02:38, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Hardy Boys Nancy Drew Movie

Wow, great job uploading youtube for the Hardy Boys Nancy Drew TV show preview. It's one thing to have info about a tv series, but its a lot better to actually be able to see some of it! -- Centrion (talk) 09:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

New Images?

Hi, I had some hardy boys images I didn't know where to put, maybe you can use em, or delete them if you'd like. :)

Hardy Boys

--Nathan Elliott (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talkcontribsemail) 18:38, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Carl Bruckner co-founder of ATAC

I was just looking at A Hardy Day's Night, and you were right that I mentioned the wrong book, but all indications in the story point to Carl Bruckner being one of the Founders of ATAC. If you remember other Undercover Brothers and Graphic Novels have said that Frank and Joe Hardy were ATAC's first agents, and in the book it says that Carl Bruckner was at the ATAC office on their first day as ATAC operatives, basically saying that he was a part of forming the organization. Plus, they also mention just how close of a friend he is to Fenton Hardy. So, I think, it is pretty easy to see that Carl Bruckner is one of the founders of ATAC and one of the bosses at ATAC.Tomswift2002 20:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Tom Swift

Tomswift2002 23:08, 11 June 2008 (UTC)I was just making a quick page for the character, and I was just trying to mention that he is from other series. Of course it is a little tiring typing long descriptions of stuff on the Nintendo Wii's Opera Browser keyboard. It might be a good idea if we left that short series blurb, but then made a section talking about Tom Swift IV (Archway).

Peachey Keen

I'm new in the wiki-world but I'll do my best to make HB Wiki better.

A Quick Question

How can I make a new category.I want to start an article about The Hardy Men movie? Peachey Keen 22:49, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Requesting Some Help

I dont like the idea of The Hardy Men but some might like it.I was trying to put info for the film like actors,release dat etc.I'm hitting some bumps so I could use some help adding content to that article.If you or any one else could put some more stuff on it that would be really helpful!Thanks.

Thanks For the Help

Thanks for rearanging the content for The Hardy Men.I really appreciate the help.When I'd put up an infobox,it have the word "gallery" at the top.Anyway,thanks again! Peachey Keen 17:43, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm Back

I've been traveling a lot this summer so I haven't done anything in a while.I'll try to start doing more.Have a good summer! Peachey Keen 21:31, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Another Question

You said that I made The Hardy Home page.I didn't make that page.Someone else did.Peachey Keen 00:44, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Breaking News!

This may or not be the cover but I found this on Amazon.[1].I don't know how to put pics of stuff on the HB Wika.Peachey Keen 15:16, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


Your welcome.Just looking at the cover art only make me anticipate the game more!Peachey Keen 20:02, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but...

Okay, maybe I'm kind of a lamen, but I CAN'T figure out how to put my pages in the Undercover Brothers category!!! I messed around with things trying to put it in the UB category, but I can't seem to figure it out. Can you tell me what to type so I can put my pages in there? Sam spade 01:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


I've been looking around the web for Hardy Boys pictures and I saw wondering if there was any specific pictures you thought the site needed. Centrion 12:24, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

About The Logo...

I realllly liked the old HB Wika logo much more than the new one,no affense.Peachey Keen 16:44, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

About The Logo Again

I liked the old logo better because it looks a lot cooler.But it's your decision.

Yeah,that's probablly what it is.I think maybe you should ask other users what they think.

Manual of Style

Hi -- I think the Manual of Style was fine. I guess if I had any suggestion it would be to further simplify it, or break it into more pages. It's a lot to read. One section I found particularly "long" was the bit on paragraphs; that's not wiki-specific, it's just good writing, and unless you feel very strongly that it needs to be said I think you could leave it out. I think the important content is really how to handle the continuities and the in/out of universe stuff which is very wiki-specific.

On the in-universe thing, I think you have to be very vigilant to maintain it. I've seen a lot of wikis try in-universe, and it's fairly non-intuitive to a lot of editors (including me!). So you have to do a lot of work as an admin to maintain it from what I've seen... and if you don't it just sort of ends up in a muddle of stuff. That's just a note; I think it's a perfectly fine way to set up the wiki, and there are wikis that have succeeded brilliantly with it. It's just not obvious to everyone who drops by :). -- Wendy (talk) 23:45, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Just letting ya know.

I noticed that no one has made a list of appearances in House Arrest yet. So I'm just letting you know that I am currently reading House Arrest and I should have a list of appearances in House Arrest up in a few days. :) ==> Sam spade 07:16, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I just finished the list. If anyone has anything they would like to add to it, feel free. :) ==> Sam spade 08:53, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

New skin

Hi WHLfan! I've created the theme with the adjustments here. All you need to do is copy and paste the code from there into Monaco.css. I got most of the info for designing the skin from this page on Wikia Help. swannietalk 02:10, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


Ah, defaultsort! That's a new one on me. Well, I'd seen it before but never really thought about it. I'll bear it in mind in future! Cheers! Paul Hassett 07:40, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


There are now article stubs, for EVERY BOOK in the Undercover Brothers series! Some are smaller then others, but even the small ones are better then nothing. Lets stay on top of them as they come out. Good job everyone! ==> Sam spade 07:48, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Progress

Yeah, well I plan on making more articles, so I'll probably make some for some of the other series' too. Hmmm...which ones too do first... ==> Sam spade 03:30, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Suggestion

Good idea, WHLfan! I'll start making some stubs for Digest books! Hope you don't mind if they are just stubs and not articles... ==> Sam spade 05:43, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Skin question

Hi WHLfan. I can't seem to figure out how to change the color of the line at the bottom of the page. I figured out how to change the color of the words and seperator bars, but I'm not sure of how to change the color of the line. If you want me to keep trying to find it, just let me know and I'll do my best. swannietalk 05:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Here is the code for changing the footer colors:

#wikia_footer {
This one (above) changes the bars in between the words.
#wikia_footer a {
This changes the words.

swannietalk 06:15, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Oops! Forgot to answer your question! I really like the new skin. I read some of the posts in the forums and I agree: it gives it a more professional look and looks great with the logo! I also like how you implemented the black into it, instead of it all being blue. Great job! swannietalk 06:22, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Image names

Okay, sorry about that. I'll try to upload them again. If I can't do it right, I'll have you do it, okay? Thanks for your patience with me (I'm still learning):) ==> Sam spade 07:43, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Argh! Crap! Crap! CRAP!
I accidentally unloaded the image for Trouble in Warp Space under the name "Image:Lazarus Plot.jpg" as well as under the name "Image:Trouble in Warp Space.jpg" CRAP!
Sorry about that, but I don't think I can delete it, so I'll have to wait until you delete it, and then I'll upload the image for The Lazarus Plot under the CORRECT name. Sorry again. ==> Sam spade 08:01, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
I've deleted them.
WHLfan (talk to me!) 02:55, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

New Skin

Hi WHLfan. Glad I could help with the formatting (I hope it's ok that only did one of them instead of all the boxes). And the new skin looks great -- very very classic hardy boys :). Do you want to update the favicon also? -- Wendy (talk) 15:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: I'm Back

Hope everything looks the way that it did when you left. I didn't spot any trouble makers.Tomswift2002 23:14, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


Hi. The simplest way I can think to make those sections optional is to have a switch for them. So instead of one long if statement on all the possible fields, instead have:

{{#if: {{{pubinfo|}}} | {{!}} colspan="2" style="background: #000000; color: #FFFFFF; font-size: 80%; text-align:left"{{!}} '''Publication information'''}}

Then if you have |pubinfo=yes the heading will show up; leave pubinfo blank and it won't. If you are really determined to figure out how to do an if on all the fields instead I can try to work it out, I just don't know how offhand.

As for the images, you have two options. Either specify the width every time you put them in the template eg. |Image=[[Image:image.jpg|284px]], or build the width into the template. I modified your sandbox to do the latter (which I think is easier). -- Wendy (talk) 03:04, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Nope. It makes no sense whatsoever that using a switch makes the heading senseless, but I worked out the syntax the way you wanted to do it originally anyhow. You can see it in your sandbox -- I tested it (without saving) and it seems to work just fine. I think you were missing some brackets mostly. -- Wendy (talk) 03:24, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
You're welcome :). -- Wendy (talk) 04:46, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Fixed Width

I think it might be possible to do this if you are willing to put in an extra input line for the image width when it is less than the standard width. If you don't want to do that, then the only way to change the image width is to take out the width in the template, and have the user input it as part of the Image link as I said above. If you're ok with the extra input I'll try to code it up tomorrow... too late tonight. -- Wendy (talk) 05:02, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Another Screenshot

I found this screen shot on Amazon.Peachey Keen 21:33, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

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